朱松纯:我对CV及AI领域各种研究方法论的看法
novakon2016/07/12软件综合 IP:广东

本文由楼主整理,原文见 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX/~sczhu/research_XXXXXXXml

1. How to reach the moon: do we know that we are not doing research in the wrong way? (2010)

Vision is arguably one of the most challenging, and potentially useful, problem in modern science and engineering for its enormous complexity in knowledge representation, learning and the computing mechanisms of the biologic systems.

For such a complex problem, we must look for a long term solution, and be cautious that many apparently promising ways may lead to dead ends.

By analogy, suppose some monkeys want to reach the moon, they may choose to (1) climb a tree, indeed, a tree could be so tall that a monkey climbs diligently for a life time, (2) grab the moon from a well at night time, or (3) ride a hot air balloon! All these methods appear to be smart and actually very cute, and people can enjoy measurable progress over time! while the real solution (building a spacecraft) looks hopeless for a long time and appears to be totally ridiculous to ordinary eyes ! In reality, most people simply do not have the patience to learn astrophysics and rocket science, which are too complex and boring for them.


Reaching_the_Moon_by_Stephanie.jpg

Comic illustrated by my daughter Stephanie Zhu (11 yrs old drawn in 2010): How to reach the moon.

[修改于 8年5个月前 - 2016/07/16 08:28:16]

来自:计算机科学 / 软件综合
4
已屏蔽 原因:{{ notice.reason }}已屏蔽
{{notice.noticeContent}}
~~空空如也
novakon 作者
8年5个月前 IP:广东
822655

2. Is vision a classification problem solvable by machine learning? (2011)

Some students asked me whether vision is just an application area of machine learning (which currently means training Boosting or SVM classifiers with large number of examples) as it appears to them. If so, what left for vision researchers is just to design good features. Such question is a real insult to vision and reflects the misleading research trend that poses vision as simple as a classification problem. This is no longer surprising to me, as the young generation not only never heard of Ulf Grenander (the father of pattern theory), but now didn't know who David Marr (father of computational vision) was.

By analogy, machine learning, with its popular meaning, is very much like the method practiced by Chinese herbal clinics over the past three thousand years. Ancient people, who had little knowledge of modern medicine, tried on 100s of materials (roots, seeds, shells, worms, insects, etc) just like machine learning people test on various features. These ingredients are mixed with weights and boiled to black and bitter soup as drugs --- a regression process. It is believed that such soup can cure all illness including cancer, SARS and HmNn flu, without having to understand either the biologic functions and causes of the illnesses or the mechanism of the drugs. All you need is to find the right ingredients and mix them in the right proportion (weights). In theory, actually you can prove that this is true (essentially, modern medicine mixes some sort of ingredients as well), just like machine learning methods are guaranteed to solve all problems if they have enough features and examples, according to statistics theory! But the question is: with the space of ingredients so large, how do we find the right ingredients effectively (with realistic number of examples for training as well as number of patients for testing)? For vision, we got to study the complex structures of the images, the rich spaces and their compositions, and the variety of models and representations.


Chinese_herb_clinic.jpg

Comic: the analogy between Chinese herbal clinic and machine learning (by a painter Kun Deng and me drawn in 2008).

引用
评论
加载评论中,请稍候...
200字以内,仅用于支线交流,主线讨论请采用回复功能。
折叠评论
novakon作者
8年5个月前 IP:广东
822656

3. Hack, Math and Stat: why should we be tolerant of different styles in vision. (2011)

Research methodologies in vision (and other sciences and engineering) can be summarized in three approaches or stages: Hack, Math, and Stat. Hacks are heuristics or somethings that somehow work somewhere, but you cannot tell exactly how and where they work. Math is on the opposite side, it tells us that under certain conditions, things can be said analytically or with a gaurantee of performance, but often the conditions are quite limited and do not apply to general situations in the real world. Stat is essentially regression. With lots of parameters, you eventually can fit any data, but lack a physical explanation. Hack, math, and stat are therefore different levels of interpretations or models.

It is interesting to see examples in discplines that has a longer history, say physics. The Chinese expedition [1405-1433] in the Ming dynasty was the most advanced of its time when folks sailed 2/3 of the world reaching Africa and Europe without even knowing the Earth is round ! The technique they used is called celestial navigation (see the picture below), which I call "hacks" here. People used the constalletions to find the north and the latitude. the constellations are very much like shape features we are using today for object recognition. It was not precise, but worked to some extent in practice.

A beautiful math theory appeared in the 1680s* when Newton invented the gravitation theory which is simple and explains the movements of stars and planets. But the math is not suffisticated enough to explain fully the motion of moon. Newton was reported said that the lunar theory "made his head ache and kept him awake so often that he would think of it no more"**. In 1750s, it was the French talents like Euler and a few others who came to rescue. They invented the least-sqaured method to fit the observational data perfectly with regression (see the equation below). Such regression equations looks very familiar in machine learning today.

Hack, math, and stat are all useful tools and methods, and often a complex solution integrates all three of them. For example, in image compression and coding, we have the math in information theory, wavelets and computational mononic analysis at its core. Then we also use statistics for the frequency of various elements in the code book. Finally the coding scheme contains numerous engineering hacks to make it work in real images/video, such as jpg and mpeg. It is likely the solution to vision will rely on all three aspects, and you need to be good at all three aspects if you are serious at solving the vision problems.


Hack_Math_Stat.jpg

From a talk I gave at the Frontiers of Vision at Boston in 2011. Download the whole ppt at XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX/~sczhu/Talks/Zhu_Hack_Stat_Math_2011.pptx/

引用
评论
加载评论中,请稍候...
200字以内,仅用于支线交流,主线讨论请采用回复功能。
折叠评论
novakon作者
8年5个月前 IP:广东
822657

4. If you cannot solve a simple problem in vision, you may have to solve a complex one! (2014)

Reductionism is a beloved research strategy in many areas of modern sciences. It says that if you cannot solve a problem, you should divide it into smaller components as any complex system is nothing but the sum of its parts. This methodology was practiced by early vision researchers in the 1980s, for example, numerous methods for edge detection, segmentation, shape-from-X etc.

But, people found that even the simplest problem like edge detection couldn't be solved, because the definition of an edge depends on tasks in higher levels and even human labelers cannot agree whether there is an edge without specifying the task levels. Unlike physicists who can choose to study a system or phenomenon at a given scale or status, computer vision researchers found themselves very unfortunate: each single image contains so many patterns and tasks across many levels!

The figure below shows how much we the humans can infer, parse, and reason about in space, time and causal-effect from a single image.

kitchen_Zhu.png

This is a figure that I drew in our MURI 2015 project: Understanding Scenes and Events by Joint Parsing, Cognitive Reasoning and Lifelong Learning..


The table below lists a set of questions that we must solve, all together, in order to understand a single image. So, we go the opposite direction: if you cannot solve a simple problem, you may have to solve a complex one! This motivated our work for developing a unified representation --- spatial, temporal and causal and-or graph and making joint parsing of all the tasks on the table (see our demo page ). Now it reminds me of a loud slogan in machine learning: "You should never solve a problem more than is necessary (by Vapnik)". This was used to argue for discriminative models against generative models. The slogan itself has nothing wrong, but unfortunately we just don't have such well-defined problems to solve in computer vision! Face detection perhaps is a rare exception when you don't consider the image context. Edge detection was thought to be a classification problem, but it is not. I am also reminded that physicists are taking our approach lately. For example, the concept of Dark Matter/Energy is to construct a more complex system than what we can see, and in superstring theory, people go to 10 dimensional space in order to put relativity theory and quantum mechanics in peace.

MURI_tasks.gif

This table lists the aspects for scene understanding that we promised in 2010 to study in the ONR MURI project.

引用
评论
加载评论中,请稍候...
200字以内,仅用于支线交流,主线讨论请采用回复功能。
折叠评论
novakon作者
8年5个月前 IP:广东
822658

5. The "dark matter" and "dark energy" in images and vision

In images and videos, many entities and relations are infeasible to detect by their appearances using existing approaches, and most of them do not even show in any pixels. Yet, they are pervasive and govern the placement and motion of the visible entities that are relatively easier to detect. By analogy, they are like the dark matters and dark energy in cosmology which physicists study in a standard cosmology model.

Studying such "dark entities" and "dark relations" in vision are crucial for filling the performance gaps in the recognition of objects, scenes, actions and events. More specificallty, “dark matter” corresponds to entities which are infeasible to recognize by visual appearances. This includes

i) status of an agent (human and animal)’s goals and intents, like hungry, thirsty, which trigger actions;

ii) status of an object, such as a door is “locked”;

and iii) stuff like water which has no specific geometric shape or appearance.

“Dark energy” refers to hidden relations which drive the motion of objects in a video. To name a few:

i) physical forces like gravity and supporting relations between objects;

ii) causal effects and causal relations between actions and the changing object statuses;

and iii) attraction relations between an object (like food) and an agent (hungry); and so on.


dark_matter.jpg

In computer vision, two prevailing representational paradigms are: (I) the view-centered and appearance-based models; and (II) theobject/scene centered geometric based representation. I argue that a deep level for representation is task-centered based on the dark matters and dark energies. Therefore we must integrate the "visible" (geometry and appearance) and the "dark" (FPIC), and develop algorithms for joint inference and reasoning. This also explains why we cannot solve those "simple" problems and must tackle the "complex" one jointly.

引用
评论
加载评论中,请稍候...
200字以内,仅用于支线交流,主线讨论请采用回复功能。
折叠评论

想参与大家的讨论?现在就 登录 或者 注册

所属专业
所属分类
上级专业
同级专业
novakon
学者 机友 笔友
文章
1256
回复
8386
学术分
16
2008/03/29注册,2年10个月前活动

已走,勿送

主体类型:个人
所属领域:无
认证方式:手机号
IP归属地:未同步
文件下载
加载中...
{{errorInfo}}
{{downloadWarning}}
你在 {{downloadTime}} 下载过当前文件。
文件名称:{{resource.defaultFile.name}}
下载次数:{{resource.hits}}
上传用户:{{uploader.username}}
所需积分:{{costScores}},{{holdScores}}下载当前附件免费{{description}}
积分不足,去充值
文件已丢失

当前账号的附件下载数量限制如下:
时段 个数
{{f.startingTime}}点 - {{f.endTime}}点 {{f.fileCount}}
视频暂不能访问,请登录试试
仅供内部学术交流或培训使用,请先保存到本地。本内容不代表科创观点,未经原作者同意,请勿转载。
音频暂不能访问,请登录试试
支持的图片格式:jpg, jpeg, png
插入公式
评论控制
加载中...
文号:{{pid}}
投诉或举报
加载中...
{{tip}}
请选择违规类型:
{{reason.type}}

空空如也

加载中...
详情
详情
推送到专栏从专栏移除
设为匿名取消匿名
查看作者
回复
只看作者
加入收藏取消收藏
收藏
取消收藏
折叠回复
置顶取消置顶
评学术分
鼓励
设为精选取消精选
管理提醒
编辑
通过审核
评论控制
退修或删除
历史版本
违规记录
投诉或举报
加入黑名单移除黑名单
查看IP
{{format('YYYY/MM/DD HH:mm:ss', toc)}}